#1916 SPANISH MAUSER HISTORY FULL#
Full Circle: A Treatise on Roller Locking. Heckler & Koch would go on to develop an entire family of weapons based on the G3, including the HK33 rifle, HK21 machine gun, and MP5 submachinegunġ. The CETME design was licensed by the West German government, and production was transferred to German manufacturers, Heckler & Koch and Rheinmetall. In January 1959, the Bundeswehr officially adopted the CETME rifle. The CETME, known as the Automatisches Gewehr G3, competed successfully against the SIG SG 510 (G2) and AR-10 (G4) to replace the previously favored G1 rifle. However, the newly formed West German Army (Bundeswehr) now displayed interest and soon purchased a number of CETME rifles for further testing. In 1956, the Bundesgrenzschutz canceled its planned procurement of the CETME rifles, adopting the FN FAL (G1) instead. For his efforts in developing the rifle, Vorgrimler was awarded the Encomienda de Alfonso X el Sabio. In 1958, this rifle was introduced into service with the Spanish Army as the Modelo 58. Further development of the rifle produced the CETME Modelo B, which had been "improved" with the help of Heckler & Koch, receiving several modifications including the ability to fire from a closed bolt in both semi-automatic and automatic firing modes, a new perforated sheet-metal handguard (the folding bipod had been the foregrip in previous models), improved ergonomics, and a slightly longer barrel with a rifle grenade launcher mount. Instead, the resulting CETME Modelo A was chambered for the 7.62x51mm CETME cartridge, which had identical chamber dimensions but a reduced-power load compared to the standard NATO round. The Germans then had to explain that they wanted a version chambered for the standard 7.62x51mm NATO. Misunderstanding the German request, CETME developed a 7.62 mm version of the 7.92x40mm cartridge. Not willing to accept a cartridge outside of the NATO specification, the Germans asked CETME to develop a 7.62 mm version of the rifle. The Spanish government selected the Modelo 2 for continued development in July, 1952.īeside the interest at home in Spain, the Modelo 2 attracted a lot of attention from the West German Border Guards (Bundesgrenzschutz), which sought a new service rifle. Former Rheinmetall engineers led by Hartmut Menneking already had a nine month head start on the gas-operated Modelo 1, but Vorgrimler and his team of former Mauser engineers had their own Modelo 2 prototype ready by December 1950. Once there, Vorgrimler went to work on a roller-delayed rifle chambered for the experimental 7.92x40mm cartridge. The French initially attempted to prevent him from leaving the country, but Vorgrimler and family were allowed to move to Madrid in September 1950. Vorgrimler was recruited to work for CETME in Spain. Note the references at the end, they are very good ones and not of the "internet".Īlso with a little further research on your part you will find why the chambers were is just as I said also. You have it bacwards BTW HK did not develop the GS but were licensed by CETME, of Spain, to produce it. Here is the actual facts, in brief, regarding by whom and when the CETME rifle was developed.
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I'm not one one to use Wikpedia as a reference unless the information is well referenced. Better to make your incorrect derogatory comments to/about me there don’t you think? No need for you to ruin another thread with such on the CBF is there?Īdditionally I know you've a heartburn with internet and written references (the 3 on ballistics you asked for, I gave and you then criticised among numerous other examples). Wouldn’t your of this thread with a pi**ing contest with me be better served over o the AR forum? I have withdrawn from joe’s thread so you, he and gear have it to yourselves. Perhaps if you hable espanole you can read it from the horses mouth………instead of “on the internet”…. Subsequent CETMEs all have fluted chambers as do all HK M91s.ħ.62 CETME and 7.62 NATO were for use in the M1916s, FR7 and the FR8s rebarreled to “7.62”.
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Subsequently all the CETME’s in use had their chambers fluted or were rebarreled. The former CETME German engineers now at HK discovered that fluting the chambers solved the extraction problem. At one time Spain issued 7.62 CETME ammo for use in rifles and 7.62 NATO for use in the SAWs in use. The CETME cartridge was developed to use in such.
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The original CETME 7.62 NATO rifles had unfluted chambers and extraction was a problem. It was designed for other cartridges than the 7.62 NATA and was adopted to it. Perhaps you should do some research other than on the internet, eh?įact is the CETME was in development before the HK91 (same engineers left Spain and went to HK).